[历史] [转]IRO WIKI的一点好东西,关于敏捷提升与力量增幅(能加分么...汗)

作者: Doddler
How much hit / Monster Agi Up
链接:http://forums.irowiki.org/showth ... &highlight=flee
大意:给出了一个数字上的提升后需要HIT与FLEE表格,从中我们将看到泥沼只能降低其效果而不能将其直接消除

Doddler说:
以龟王为例,LV97,AGI45,其FLEE=97+45=142,100%命中所需HIT即为142+20=162
如果按AGI变为3倍计算的话,敏捷提升后,其必要HIT即变为97+45*3+20=252
这显然与实际情况不符.(这只是作者说的,我本人还没有来得及测试)

实际情况是,我们需要300左右的HIT才能100%命中敏捷提升后的龟王,
而300这个数字又恰好约等于FLEE2倍后的必要HIT数,即142*2+20=302

所以他提出敏捷提升的效果是直接将FLEE翻倍(而非AGI变为3倍),同理力量增幅也是直接将ATK3倍,HIT翻倍(而非DEX变为3倍)
此时AGI对FLEE的作用也同时翻倍了,DEX对HIT同理

所以当5级泥沼地作用到素质提升后的BOSS身上的时候
可以将这只怪提升后的FLEE/HIT降低min(100,BOSS原AGI/DEX)
然后由FLEE+20算得提升后泥中100%所需HIT,由其HIT-20算得爆气后泥中95%回避所需FLEE

由此推出具体怪物敏捷提升后所需HIT,提升后5级泥中所需HIT,以及换做力量增幅之后对应95%回避所需FLEE列表如下
(Quag代表泥沼地5级)
我附带个杀必死把怪物名也翻译了(基本上是张不完全的BOSS表),其实逛英文站肯定是要知道怪的名字的...
另外请注意某些数据IRO与我们不同(MVP的HP,ATK,VIT以及INT),不过不影响此表中数据在CRO的正确性

In further testing it does not appear to triple agi/dex. What it does is that it doubles HIT or FLEE stats. The proof is in the testing. Turtle General has 45 AGI, and is level 97. That gives him 142 flee, or he requires 162 hit to perfect hit. If it was 3x agi, he would only require 252 hit, but in reality you need around 300. Double flee rating gives him 284 flee, or requires 304 HIT to perfect hit, right on target.

For comparison sake, I'll put HIT/FLEE rates for popular monsters with and without agi up, and power up for fun as well.

Agi Up
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(贝雷杰苍蝇形态)Beelzebub Fly: Normal: 228 / Agi: 436 / Agi+Quag: 336
(黑暗之王)Dark Lord: Normal: 220 / Agi: 420 / Agi+Quag: 320
(伯爵)Dracula: Normal: 200 / Agi: 380 / Agi+Quag: 286
(海盗王)Drake: Normal: 170 / Agi: 320 / Agi+Quag: 240
(卡仑)Hatii: Normal: 219 / Agi: 418 / Agi+Quag: 318
(冰龙)Ktullanux: Normal: 244 / Agi: 468 / Agi+Quag: 368
(4074)Lord of Death: Normal: 213 / Agi: 406 / Agi+Quag: 308
(蜂后)Mistress: Normal: 259 / Agi: 498 / Agi+Quag: 398
(俄塞里斯)Osiris: Normal: 173 / Agi: 326 / Agi+Quag: 252
RSX-0806: Normal: 157 / Agi: 294 / Agi+Quag: 244
(元灵)Samurai Specter: Normal: 176 / Agi: 332 / Agi+Quag: 246
(MVP迪文)Sniper Cecil: Normal: 299 / Agi: 558 / Agi+Quag: 458
(MVP小艾)SinX Eremes: Normal: 300 / Agi: 580 / Agi+Quag: 480
(塔奥群卡)Tao Gunka: Normal: 175 / Agi: 330 / Agi+Quag: 246
(乌龟将军)Turtle General: Normal: 162 / Agi: 304 / Agi+Quag: 260
(MVP巴基力)Randgris: Normal: 239 / Agi: 438 / Agi+Quag: 338

(黄金虫)Thief Bug: Normal: 32 / Agi: 44 / Agi+Quag: 38
(舞狮)Zhu Po Long: Normal: 136 / Agi: 252 / Agi+Quag: 190
(暗神射)Cecil Damon: Normal: 247 / Agi: 474 / Agi+Quag: 374
(暗刺客)Eremes Guile: Normal: 245 / Agi: 450 / Agi+Quag: 350

Power Up
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(阿特罗斯)Atroce: Normal: 246 / PowerUp: 417 / PowerUp+Quag: 329
(巴风特)Baphomet: Normal: 253 / PowerUp: 477 / PowerUp+Quag: 377
(红地龙)Detardeurus: Normal: 305 / PowerUp: 535 / PowerUp+Quag: 435
(死灵)Doppelganger: Normal: 272 / PowerUp: 469 / PowerUp+Quag: 369
(虎王)Eddga: Normal: 230 / PowerUp: 385 / PowerUp+Quag: 295
(墨蛇)Evil Snake Lord: Normal: 312 / PowerUp: 549 / PowerUp+Quag: 449
(影魔)Gloom Under Night: Normal: 275 / PowerUp: 475 / PowerUp+Quag: 375
(火神)Ifrit: Normal: 373 / PowerUp: 671 / PowerUp+Quag: 571
(基尔)Kiel-D-01: Normal: 364 / PowerUp: 653 / PowerUp+Quag: 553
(冰龙)Ktullanux: Normal: 350 / PowerUp: 625 / PowerUp+Quag: 525
(塔妮小姐)Lady Tanee: Normal: 374 / PowerUp: 673 / PowerUp+Quag: 573
(MVP赛伊莲)LK Seyren: Normal: 304 / PowerUp: 533 / PowerUp+Quag: 433
(4074)LoD: Normal: 269 / PowerUp: 463 / PowerUp+Quag: 363
(MVP哈沃得)MS Howard: Normal: 310 / PowerUp: 545 / PowerUp+Quag: 445
(蚁后)Maya: Normal: 238 / PowerUp: 401 / PowerUp+Quag: 319
(达纳托斯)Memory of Thanatos: Normal: 321 / PowerUp: 567 / PowerUp+Quag: 467
(月夜花)Moonlight Flower: Normal: 237 / PowerUp: 399 / PowerUp+Quag: 305
(英雄)Orc Hero: Normal: 257 / PowerUp: 439 / PowerUp+Quag: 339
(酋长)Orc Lord: Normal: 259 / PowerUp: 443 / PowerUp+Quag: 343
(俄塞里斯)Osiris: Normal: 239 / PowerUp: 403 / PowerUp+Quag: 317
(法老王)Pharaoh: Normal: 257 / PowerUp: 439 / PowerUp+Quag: 351
(皮里恩)Phreeoni: Normal: 274 / PowerUp: 473 / PowerUp+Quag: 373
RSX-0806: Normal: 254 / PowerUp: 433 / PowerUp+Quag: 341
(元灵)Samurai Specter: Normal: 296 / PowerUp: 517 / PowerUp+Quag: 417
(MVP迪文)Sniper Cecil: Normal: 367 / PowerUp: 659 / PowerUp+Quag: 559
(冰暴)Stormy Knight: Normal: 282 / PowerUp: 489 / PowerUp+Quag: 389
(MVP巴基力)Valkyrie Randgris: Normal: 394 / PowerUp: 713 / PowerUp+Quag: 613
(贝思波)Vesper: Normal: 332 / PowerUp: 589 / PowerUp+Quag: 689

(暗神射)Cecil Damon: Normal: 291 / PowerUp: 507 / PowerUp+Quag: 407
(暗铁匠)Howard Alt-Eisen: Normal: 256 / PowerUp: 437 / PowerUp+Quag: 341
(暗骑领)Seyren Windsor: Normal: 265 / PowerUp: 455 / PowerUp+Quag: 357 / PowerUp+Bless+Quag: 307

(矿工魔)Pitman: Normal: 170 / PowerUp: 265 / PowerUp+Quag: 213

关于泥沼,作者的补充:
泥沼对BOSS依然有效,效果也是最多减少50%,每级能减少10点素质(A/D)

People tend to overlook using some skills on boss monsters, like divest weapon to reduce attack power (and earthquake).

这句话的意思我把握不好...

平射不爆想要打到暗神射一般是不可能的,用HIT弓(IRO有小P卡)的神射可以打到被泥之后的.若能让它中黑暗则100%所需HIT可以降低到286(474*0.75-100+20).但是不用雾墙黑暗的话很难,也许可以靠推陷阱使其黑暗

Yeah it works great on bosses, as Lupus said its the only reasonable way people can hit monsters like Ifrit (299 hit required). Quagmire reduces 10 dex and 10 agi per level, to a maximum of 50% of the targets agi/dex, and functions the same on bosses as on everyone else. People tend to overlook using some skills on boss monsters, like divest weapon to reduce attack power (and earthquake).

Hitting Cecil Damon is unreasonable normally... with a hit bow a sniper could do it if it were quagged. If you could find a decent way to blind her, it would be easy (combined with quag its 286 hit), but blinding without mist isn't overly easy. Maybe pushing a blind trap would do the trick.

[ 本帖最后由 flydreamcyx 于 2009-10-15 16:07 编辑 ]