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amd5000 发表于 2010-8-4 23:47

写给在迷茫中的RK,老资料了

:ph34r: 看得懂的自己看看,看不懂的找人翻译,这个是第一帖,后面还有经典的回复,慢慢发上来,虽然不一定都对,但大致就这样了,给喜欢研究的朋友们看,一起讨论。
重要的部分+了颜色或者是粗体
So after reading almost 200 pages of iro forums on Rune Knights plus the 2nd part of the thread that hAS like 27 pages now..

I WANT TO START A VERY SENSIBLE DISCUSSION.. hoping people will flood their ideas in

[size=6][size=5]The MUCH AWAITED RUNE KNIGHT Builds BrainStorm!![PVP/Slight Woe][/size][/size]
Disclaimer: I am only 60-75% sure of what i am about to post that is why I need you all guys here. SORRY FOR Bad English. I put effort on this hoping it to be educational and useful. Pls dnt flame.Tnx

[size=4][u]I. Offensive Skills and Runes[/u][/size]
At the very least you are expected to know these skills and I am just to discuss nuances and edges of this. Supportive will be discussed on the next item. Sorted on popularity
1. [size=6][b][color=Red]Dragon's Breath[/color][/b][/size]
Probably no RK skill on server that would top this on popularity.
Formula is: {(CurrentHP*0.016)+(MaxSP*0.192)} * SkillLv * Base/100 * ElementMod
with 65k hp plus 1000-1200 sp u deal around 20k dmg to a Dude
[size=4][b]Edges:[/b][/size]
a)It[b] wont miss[/b], unless while casting it to the Dudehe uses hiding skill. Gx's on cloak are still hit by it if by random chance he landed on it.
b)The burning effect status is Godly. Most Rk's are discouraged using this but they are missing the point that the DPS of burning status.
c)DB is range physical attack so Land Protector wont work against it and stuff like valk shield, jakk card, fire resist items won't decrease its dmg, its sort of if i did 20k to u ull receive another like that the next cast
The Oh no's a) pneuma, hiding, gloomy stops it b)being endowed w/fire property nerfs it like hell (or like north pole:D
[size=5]Ignition Break [/size]
The next big thing, or the most popular on normal to veteran players.
Edges a)cool spammable+no cAST nuke w/ around 10-15k dmg and 15-25k w/fire endowed weps  3 cells that sorounds you c)takes weapon element so u can change to whatever element u want (w/converters, aspersio, cursed water,etc)d)Dudes on pneuma can be hit by it
oh no's a) fire armors, fire resist reduces its dmg b)melee/short range need to go near the Dude
[color=Red][size=6]Storm Blast[/size][/color]
I dnt see it much on action but I think SB deals more damage output than IB and DB at extremes, meaning at max of this and that.except a dragon's breath from a 100k plus hp holder. Dmg Formula {(Int/3)* Atk} so around 90 int thats 30x multiplier to atk considering u have 700 (if u think thats too high of course that is carded and other stuff; 400x .2-hydra card=100atk) ~21k dmg
edgesa)cool dmg that also[color=Blue] takes weapon element[/color] b)AOA WITH 7X7 RANGE<- not sure it seems its lesser in reality
oh no's a)it has casting time, but is variable b)need to get near but larger range than IB c) Runes are runes, u need to farm for materials but as they say efforts always gives incentives  
Spiral Pierce
Who would have thought this would be considered? why not since it now takes (status atk + equipment atk) on its dmg formula. Soon many rk's would consider this. But moving on @ topic it still considers weight, weapon refine, and str (as an attribute not the atk thing). And what is the best part? 1 and 2 hand swords (for parry) can now be used, i forgot the link but 2hand swords deal more dmg? im not even 40% sure.
edges a)range of 5 cells b)spammable c)there is no c   
oh no's still thinking, you might want to add?^^
[b][size=5]Crush Strike[/size][/b]
I dnt knw how to argue on this thing but let us call it the asura strike that will miss .. Best weapon as discussed on iro was hurricane furry, weight and refine and atk will matter greatly. I saw tests that a plus zero wep dealt around 10k then suddenly at +4 became 25k. \freaky. im not sure with the magnitude but im sure the ratio of +0 wep to +4 would be like that.
oh nos a)it will break ur weapon  so use axes since they are unbreakable. b)1 cell range and when u cast and the Dudemoves say goodbye to the rune w/out any dmg
[size=5]Joint Beat[/size]
it got a chance to be considered
1. Ankle Break: MoveSpeed reduced by 50%.(thats serious slow)
2. Wrist Break: ASPD reduced by 25%. (quite useless)
3. Knee Break: MoveSpeed reduced by 30%, ASPD reduced by 10%. (mix comments of 1 and 2)
4. Shoulder Break: DEF reduced by 50%. (the REAL THING-DEF IS EPIC ON RENEWAL,racial redux are nerfed)
5. Waist Break: DEF reduced by 25%, ATK reduced by 25%.(nice one ^^)
6. Neck Break: Increase your damage by 2x, CRIT effect, and 30 second forced 'bleeding (this is like a gift, i wonder if an IB dmg of 15k will become 30k, but base on iro it does so guys I need u all to test, let us help each other for a better rk community against other class instead of us with each other) SHARE UR BLESSINGS   
THeSe AILMENTS STACK AS CLAIMED BY ONE!!the problem is u cant see a sign that a Dudehas these breaks. hope Gravity will notice this
[size=5]Others[/size]
1.bowling bash- for additional combo maybe
2.[color=Red]sonic wave- 9 range 8-15k dmg skill. why not for finale?[/color]
3.i cant think of number three but there should be number 3 ^^

after having some idea and giving analysis on offensive skills we should discuss now the builds
II.Builds (Stats + EQ) and Maneuvering Skills
So whats the combination then.. ok to start with I won't discuss a pure concentrated on one skill build coz obviously thats a huge failure. Hear that dragon breath fellas? joking

[size=4][b]THINGS U SHOULD HAVE AT ALL BUILDS[/b][/size]
1. Berkana Rune- the kaupe of RK's but w/ a cd but take note it rejects (what a word) magical or physical atk
2. Concentration
3. Aura Blade
4. Rune mastery at ten for runes since it gives bonus
5. Let Crush Strike be an option by carrying an axe item/unbreakable item to switch with
6. Sonic wave for Dudes trying to escape which means he has low hp
7. A terrifying angst  

[size=4][b]The DB Build that has resistance to gloomy (pure db is out of the list... hater?/gg[/b])[/size]
The idea is to pump hp with a little bit more than enough sp. Plus considerable dex for casting and reasonable agi for gloomy
Pros:dragon's breath to people w/out fire property BURNS!!ouch
Cons: most people wears it ^^.
with all the criticisms of DB to sum it up it's still a decent skill if not countered. With 150 agi which is hard to get you will still be stripped off your ride while the Dude hides or shadow forms.
Ratings: 7.5/10

B. The Mellona Build (its a build derived from a fruit)
The thing is to IB like hell using red naght with high str and dex then a storm after inferno (stormblast). IF alive sonic wave will finish the task. Situational DB.
Even with fire armors this build claims to deal 10k dmg considering a well equipped RK
Cons: Fire Armors
Ratings: 8.5/10

[b]ThE hARD TO HIT hurTS a LoT bUILd[/b]
I found it hard to hit storm blast. So in terms of hitting IB is found to be easier since it with no cast. But boosting its capacity with high int, str, dex can deal a very considerable dmg. Or maybe one hit the Dude. Of course sonic wave if not dead.
Ratings:8/10

[b]The uprising build[/b]
Combining easy to cast sills like Spiral Pierce, Bowling bash and IB. Here you need giant growth rune. You tell me this rune dnt affect skills, but spiral pierce considers str attribute on its dmg computation. But im not yet sure. Help me test.
All of those three requires almost the same items and stat points except for Spiral that needs weight.
Ratings:8.5/10

[b]I'm joint beat why don't you use me too build[/b]
With spear, spear mastery would back-up dmg so at least to catch up with swords. If any of ur thing procs which you won't knw u can spam ur spiral pierce. Take note hunting spear has 420 weight with a decent atk power.
rate: ?/10

So far these are the builds i can think of..

i hope it would be a lively forums and a lot will contribute

Conclusion:
I have been on the line of whether to do this or not but since I already did +1 for me. And +1 to all of you there who wants to share theirs and not hide their build.

We should work together since Sacrifice, PPA, GOH, Cross Impact, Asura, Cart Termination, can own us and I'm one with you with the frustration to outclass them though it was not really meant to be..

[b][color=Blue][size=3]MORE POWER RK!!!!! RAWR!!!!!!!![/size][/color][/b]


oops ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT RUNES ARE ITEMS.. SO CAST AN IB AND RUNE CAN HAPPEN AT THE SAME MOMENT!!

P.S.
1. pls dnt flame
2. pls dnt be out of topic (at least be at rk pvp realm)
3. pls dnt ask exp,leveling guide etc
[b][color=Red]4. AND PLS I SAID IM NOT SURE ON THESE FORGOT TO TAKE DOWN LINKS, SO PLS DNT HATE ME!!![/color][/b]

Poeme 发表于 2010-8-4 23:56

技能里都没提到螺旋。。。跟现在CRO还是有差别的

amd5000 发表于 2010-8-4 23:58

螺旋人家在回复里补充了:wacko: 晚点贴上来

Poeme 发表于 2010-8-5 00:02

好吧。。。不过在这里贴这个。。。看的人应该不多吧= =至少整理一份大概的总结,毕竟那些技能的名字直接翻译还是很让人不解的= =

amd5000 发表于 2010-8-5 00:04

睡觉~:)

无限透明de蓝 发表于 2010-8-5 00:19

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